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Happy Mother's Day to everybody out there.
Can't wait to talk to you all next.
Now you're on mute.
I know.
I don't know what's going on with this
stupid thing.
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
Sunday, Sunday,
Sunday night CrossFit talk.
There we go.
We got it.
We're getting up and Fergie's getting
down.
Um,
Yeah.
Wow.
I was just telling Jamie,
been a wild week.
My mom came in, Corey came home.
Everybody's traveling everywhere trying to
do, you know,
Corey only has like five days to see
everybody and get her to everybody so she
can see them.
And then my mom's flying back with her
to Montana and spending a week with her
out there.
So that's going to be cool for them.
That's awesome.
She's going to take my mom up to
Glacier National Park and check all that
out.
There's my cousin.
This is your cousin?
Happy Mother's Day, Jamie.
Happy Mother's Day to you, Leah.
Does Leah do CrossFit?
Leah does do CrossFit.
Leah works out at Paradigm CrossFit,
which is Seth's
The, um, Cairo who works on Billy.
Yep.
That is his gym.
They actually offered, well, she offered,
I guess I didn't actually speak with Seth,
but they had offered me to come over
there to grand Rapids area and do the
semifinals there,
but they didn't have anyone doing them.
And I didn't want to,
I didn't want to, you know,
inconvenience them for myself.
Denise Moore,
two weeks after punching her ticket to the
CrossFit Games,
finally catching a Sunday Night CrossFit
talk.
Fergie,
weekly Fergie question this week for
Carolyn.
Carolyn,
would you rather fly halfway around the
world for your third week of competition
or have your heater break in the dead
of a Canadian winter?
What's a heater break?
your heater, like the heater.
Yeah.
The heat in your house, in your house.
Oh, my heater break.
I thought I was thinking of like,
like a winter break and I was like
heater break, like my summer break,
like hot summer.
Sorry.
I've read that.
I was thinking I was on my vacation,
my summer vacation right now.
Um,
I think I would do a third competition
if I could.
I figured this layer up week.
You could always layer up.
The older I get the less tolerant I
am of cold.
I'm not very good like tolerating cold or
heat so
I'm just not good with temperatures.
Certainly not heat though.
I don't do very well that.
I don't like heat either.
So, um, with my hot flashes,
I don't mind the cold.
I hear that a lot from women and
I,
that I guess I have a while for
that still.
Cause I, I cannot tolerate the cold.
I'm cold all the time.
Yeah.
That happened about.
For my wife.
Yeah, those were fun years.
Just saying.
Thermostat couldn't be set to any
temperature that was suitable.
At least Jamie can visit her family on
winter.
Happy Sunday, Glasgow family.
Denise says, just wait.
Paramenopause and menopause suck.
That's what I hear.
So before we dive into all the CrossFit
stuff,
have you guys seen the movie Ordinary
Angels?
No.
Nope.
I don't even think I've heard of it.
So it's Hilary Swank and it is Reacher.
It is a phenomenal movie.
We accidentally stumbled on it last night.
It's a true story.
It is so good.
So family friendly.
So good.
So good.
Highly, highly recommend.
Okay.
Yeah, write that one down.
So...
I'm like in playoff season.
I don't have time to watch any movies.
You got basketball playoffs.
You got WNBA that's back and NHL playoffs.
I guess baseball's on too.
I'm a Seventy Sixers fan.
So we're not usually here at this point.
And then we've gotten spanked by the
Knicks every game this season series.
So I don't expect us to be here
past today.
And then my Penguins lost in illustrious
fashion in game seven.
my habs are still going yeah i saw
they won the first round i was like
carolyn's gonna be happy it's always good
uh train to olive says go knicks yeah
boo um and the other thing i wanted
to talk about is american gladiators and
jamie and i were texting about this
When it came back,
I knew it was cheesy, right?
But it's always been cheesy.
And so I was okay with it.
But I was really invested this year
because Danny Spiegel is a CrossFitter.
She's a Gladiator.
There were four competitors that were
CrossFitters.
So I was rooting.
I know Jordan Chefs because I have met
her.
I've interviewed her, all that stuff.
Wanted her to do well.
Last minute alternative was Kyle Bernier
from TTT.
And there was Bailey and her last name
is so hard to pronounce.
She was on the Milford team that took
second at the twenty fifteen games.
Is it Miraviglia?
Yes.
Okay.
You are.
You're on top of it.
So she was a contestant on the show.
And I wanted Bailey and Kyle to win
because Jordan got hurt.
And Jordan won her first round but didn't
even get to start round two.
Did she get hurt with one of the
obstacles or events?
They never say.
It was something about her arm shoulder
area.
But in the first round,
the hang tough with the rings,
danny spiegel jumped on her she held with
danny hanging on over her for the entire
time to get five points but anyway it's
rigged the show is rigged i am convinced
now that they rigged it so crossfitters
wouldn't win why do you say that so
bailey made the finals
There was one game that you had to
win to move on to be the final
two.
So three made it to the finals.
One's eliminated in the first game.
It is,
you each have a gladiator on you.
You have to be the first to touch
the middle button.
It's a new one.
It wasn't around in the day.
They put Spiegel on Bailey.
Spiegel is by far the best gladiator.
Like by far watching the whole season,
she is by far the best gladiator.
So they put her on her and she
gets booted and doesn't even get to go
to the finals is by far fitter than
the two women that moved on.
Yeah.
No,
I know this isn't a test of fitness.
I know it's a game show.
I know all that stuff, but it's rigged.
And then Kyle Bernier makes it to the
finals.
He does move on.
Is he a Masters athlete?
He is now.
Yeah,
he's probably just turning thirty-five.
He's been competing since twenty-twelve,
I think.
That doesn't mean anything.
Yeah, but he is.
He has some...
If you look at his profile,
which I sent to Jamie,
he has Masters results.
Okay.
Then, Bernier makes it to the finals.
crushes the guy on every game,
gets to the end, goes up the escalator,
whatever the thing is,
one foot steps a little bit off to
the side,
and they disqualify him completely.
What?
He would have won it completely,
and they disqualified him.
Was there prize money?
A hundred thousand dollars.
Damn, that sucks.
He went from a hundred grand to Zippo.
Yep, that sounds rigged.
It's so, so, so stupid.
So it's basically CrossFit standard?
Checks out.
The whole time I was thinking, like,
we bitch about the penalties in CrossFit.
They are harsh in American Gladiators.
like immediately but the one thing that
definitely like reigned true is danny
spiegel was the best athlete of the
gladiators the rest were muscular or
whatever looked good or whatever she
actually could play every game she's
athletic she's always been one of the most
athletic females in our sport yeah
way she tackles the way she like every
game she did well at and the one
she dominated was when they have to climb
the wall the wall like rock climb and
the gladiator chases you she was so fast
up that wall so fast um
Yeah,
the step off the side penalized another
person too.
Yeah, but that person was like way off,
way off the side.
Kyle was like just a tick off.
Hurricane looked pretty good though.
Her listed weight was heaviest too.
No, it was.
And then they brought in a new gladiator
at the end who was six,
four and a half.
Former college basketball player had put
on,
I'm assuming a lot of muscle and
They had the volleyball player who was
like six foot two, didn't they?
Maybe.
But Danny was the heaviest until this girl
came and she was just a shy under
two hundred pounds.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
So it was.
At the end,
I just felt cheated that I invested any
time in this at all.
So but I had to get that off
my chest.
was something my mom enjoyed watching so
we watched it together all weekend and i
was rooting for bailey she was rooting for
somebody else i was pissed she was happy
and uh and her girl ended up winning
the whole damn thing so there it is
uh what show was margot alvarez on that
was titan games the one thing that i
found out in titan games is they didn't
get to keep the trophy
They got to keep nothing from the show.
No outfits, nothing.
That was told to me by Matt Chan.
And I hope at least the winners of
Gladiators got to keep the trophy.
I hope.
Yeah.
I miss the old AD steroids from the
OG Gladiators.
uh crossfit i think the new gladiators are
using some stuff yeah some of them have
been on reality shows and they were much
smaller than just saying yeah um uh they
are specific about the angles they filmed
danny from yeah you're probably right um
Well, I'm on episode six, I think,
but it doesn't look like I need to
watch the rest.
Sorry, Larry.
I will say, after the first round,
they changed all the games,
most of the games,
and I like the versions they changed to
better than what the original ones were.
Okay.
Yeah,
I don't think I even made it to
episode two.
I was just, like, so annoyed.
Like,
I don't remember them showing the crowd
that much in...
The original version.
They did.
I don't know.
I guess I blocked that part out.
Did they bring back the Nerf gun one?
They did not.
That was the best one.
I like that one.
Yeah, they did not bring that one back.
I love that one too.
So anyway, that's that.
We can move on to actual sport now.
Wasn't Larry Zonka an announcer too?
Yes, he was.
Mike Adamly and Larry Zonka.
The Miz leaves a little bit to be
desired.
Agree.
Are you handing out any new stickers at
Syndicate?
I have stickers.
I'll be at Syndicate.
If you want some, I got some.
Um, okay.
So this weekend we had age group
semifinals in affiliate version.
Carolyn already punched her ticket.
We're going to talk about that in a
little bit, but for now, Jamie,
you took on the gauntlet of the workouts
that were provided this weekend.
First of all, how, how were the workouts?
Um,
They're fine.
It felt like you were kind of repeating
quarterfinals again.
It really did.
Like you're warming up and you're like,
I've done all this.
Like we went to the same affiliate and
the owners came and watched and they
watched me do one of the workouts.
And I was like,
this literally is the same workout you
watched me do a month and a half
ago.
Like I feel bad.
But yeah, this one was different.
The rest I felt like literally just were
repeating.
I mean, this was a decent workout.
You had to go hard enough to give
yourself some time to do the double under
and handstand walk.
Decent workout there.
Workout three, the Jackie one.
Again,
you already did the thousand meter row.
We already... I don't know.
It was...
whatever this one's a decent test of
fitness can you hold on for the second
round this one was just weird um i
think this one was a big miss by
them the amount of ties that are gonna
be it wasn't it was it should have
just gone heavier just just do the lot
like make them do the full ladder like
the amount of people just finishing the
ladder tripping over their barbell then
just trying to quickly do one minute of
unbroken power cleans is just not the
right test
I feel like the deadlift test,
the double under deadlift test was heavy
enough.
Sure.
It didn't get quite this heavy,
but heavy enough that like you either were
strong enough to hold onto it unbroken or
not.
And like that probably ranked the
leaderboard where it should have been.
That workout was a good enough test that
I don't think they needed to do that
again.
I just think it was a miss.
The weights were not heavy enough for
either division.
Even the five hundred,
so many guys are pulling that.
A lot of girls are going to hit
the three fifteen.
Just make it go high.
Make it go to four something for the
girls.
If you can't make it,
you can maybe do extra reps or max.
I don't know, but it wasn't it.
What was the point of the power clean?
There was no point.
For the tiebreak.
No, I get that.
But like the amount of ties that we'll
see on the tiebreaker.
Probably.
I hope that they are.
That's the one where I think they need
to be critical on the judging.
Most people know that cleans are like one
of my biggest peeves in the sport and
elbows not thrown on the cleans.
And I think this is just asking for
no reps.
I've already seen like people posting
videos of their cleans on Facebook or on
Instagram.
And I'm like, yeah, those are no reps.
I mean, this one we already did.
Can't stand push-up seems a little
redundant here.
This would have been great with
toe-to-bar.
Yeah,
I think this one should have been toaster
bars.
Because that would have made the grip
better.
And then just a higher number of toaster
bars.
So it still becomes very lungy.
Yeah, it's a lot of lunging.
Jeremy says Jamie is greater than Corey.
Then he tried his hand at workout one
yesterday.
Stung a little, but fun.
yeah one was tough i have not squat
snatched maybe three or four times since
my hip surgery and my shoulders what's
been bothering me i mean maybe getting
down into that squat quickly i just can't
get in good position so that one was
really rough for me but did the time
domains feel redundant from open quarters
legends uh
well no there wasn't anything like quite
as quick as that sandbag chest of our
one at legends that was like super duper
short but yes otherwise i feel like they
were quarters well the deadlift one is
technically ten minutes but it's for like
a lot of people but it's not really
it's just an email yeah not really that's
a short one i
I think they did a good job testing
the deadlift capacity in the quarters.
Like,
I think that was the way to do
it with the double unders.
Are you strong enough to hold onto it?
I'm broken at the end.
I don't think they needed that.
I think that,
I think they needed a completely different
test for, for workout for.
Larry Young says,
I like them better than quarters,
even like the strength test.
But training think tank said the deadlift
was off because a guy who could deadlift
six fifty had no advantage over a guy
with a five fifty max.
I don't... Okay, fine.
That's probably true.
But do we need a guy that can
deadlift six-fifty and the game's over a
guy who can deadlift five-hundred?
For instance, if there's a person who...
If that five-hundred deadlifter guy beat
the six-fifty pound deadlift guy in
quarters... I mean...
That's really your fitness test.
Like...
What if you took out the power cleans
and you made it a moderate shoulder to
overhead?
And then you take out the handstand
push-ups and you put that toes to bars?
Because then you would test the deadlift
to a certain weight,
which I think should be heavier.
And then the tiebreaker,
you're testing another type of strength,
which is like a shoulder to overhead.
I guess you have thrusters,
so I guess not.
But yeah, something.
Yeah, you got thrusters.
You already got squat snatch.
I feel like... I mean, to be fair,
I don't feel like...
I feel like it should have been heavier.
I don't know.
I almost think the cleans should have been
heavier.
Like it was too light,
like a ninety five one third.
Because it makes people like that.
They're a muscle clean.
But not really.
Yeah.
Get their elbows through.
Yeah.
It wasn't it wasn't heavy enough.
And then it just becomes like a range
of motion.
Did you trip over the barbell?
Where did you put your secondary barbell?
How fast did you get to it?
How fast did you even lift your deadlift
on the minute?
Did you bend over towards your barbell too
early on the nine-minute mark?
A lot of little false starts can matter.
I don't know.
I think that one was a miss.
Mark Phillips, for some,
it was a barbell cycling workout big miss.
He also said something about lots of bent
knees.
Yeah.
That happens with deadlift all the time.
deadlift or the clean they're they're not
finishing the clean they don't lock out
their knees i saw a lot of that
which one was your favorite to do this
weekend um probably the shuttle burpee
back jump over i mean i like i
like the lunge one because i like lunging
and i like handstand push-ups
I don't know that I'd say it was
my favorite though.
It's just like,
it's just the two movements.
At least there was like something to the,
you know,
you did one thing and another thing.
So there's more to it.
I don't know.
I did a lot of judging this weekend.
Did you?
Yeah.
But I felt the responsibility to help
anyone that needed because I know how it
feels to need a judge.
And I was like,
I can be available anytime, anywhere.
Let me know.
Just because I didn't have to do them
this weekend.
So it was my turn to give back.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
So...
Jamie, you've been doing this for a while.
Do you think you're in a good position
moving forward?
I don't know.
I think it depends on like who's talking
to who and who's getting,
I don't have very much information.
I did speak with Jen a little bit.
She tested a couple of them.
Um,
And then I've spoken with Lori Winkleman,
also not my age bracket.
Um,
so I've had two people that I've talked
to other than that,
I have like zero information.
So it's like, I have no idea.
I mean,
I'm okay with four of the workouts.
One of them I'm not too keen on.
Um, but I never have any clue.
Like, I mean,
fifteen is definitely tougher than thirty.
I would feel confident in.
I'm always injured, Ken.
It's fine.
How many people have signed up in your
division?
How many pages are you guys at?
I don't know.
I just opened the app to put in
my scores.
You can't see that.
I'd have to get online and see how
many pages there are.
I'm going to go look.
I don't know though.
Like that is, that's what's really hard.
Like online is a mind fuck.
Like you,
you have no clue unless you have people
that you can,
I mean like it would have been nice
if Carolyn was doing some of the workouts
and could have given me some, some idea.
I don't know.
Should have asked.
I would have done them for you.
Yeah.
I did not feel good on Thursday and
Friday at all.
Like,
I don't know if I was getting sick
or what was going on.
I did a couple of the workouts,
totally messed up the deadlift workout.
We had the bar bars loaded wrong the
whole time.
So essentially I was starting from scratch
yesterday.
Like I did three workouts yesterday and
two today.
So I have one question for Carolyn and
then I'm going to come back to that.
Denise wanted to know,
did it feel weird not to compete in
the online semifinal this weekend?
I felt like I was late for a
test at school every morning.
It felt weird.
It felt like nice, to be honest,
to not have any pressure,
to not just to be able to help
people and judge.
But it did feel weird that I didn't
have to do it.
I was like, man,
do I just sign up and do them?
Just ruin people's leaderboard.
Affect some of the workers.
I was like, okay, these are nice tests.
I like them.
There's none of them that I don't like.
Mark says it looks like four full pages
of forty to forty-four.
So two hundred.
So Jamie, you said...
messed up weights oh my god do we
do we want that story yes i would
start it at like an idiot so only
got to because you just you didn't put
the lives got it so so you finished
that workout with the wrong weights yeah
like you went all the way through the
max power yeah oh yeah
Do you think that helped you the next
day when you did it again?
Or did it hurt you?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I guess I kind of knew what to
expect on cleans.
Yeah, I don't know.
So,
how hard were you kicking yourself then
right after you did it?
A little bit.
I felt pretty good for that workout.
Like I said, like that was,
so that was Friday and I was not
like crap on Thursday, Friday.
I was like, I don't know,
maybe starting to feel better,
but I wasn't feeling great.
I had done the rope climb workout and
like kind of imploded.
And then after that, I was like,
Well, I feel like I'm warm.
I'm going to try the deadlift.
And that I felt fine for.
I mean,
I guess there's no real cardio capacity
there.
So I don't know.
But I feel like I felt way better
yesterday.
Whatever I had finally passed through me,
I guess.
I could breathe.
My lungs...
I was getting blood flow to my
extremities.
I felt like my arms were not recovering.
I was not getting blood out to my
extremities.
CrossFit says Jamie and Fi are the same
injured.
So then the last kind of kerfuffle of
the weekend with you was because you
cannot work out in your home gym.
You and you have to go to somewhere
else.
You had to bring your own climbing rope.
And your ceilings aren't that high.
So you actually went badass mama and did
the workout with shorty ropes.
Yeah, it's not super short.
Don't get me wrong.
It's just it wasn't touching the ground.
It's like two feet off the ground.
So, yeah,
it is like jumping up and which makes
the tail wave around a little more.
But yeah.
which one of the five is your worst
one the rope climb see like i think
that's the least damage if i think that
one is not as dan like damaged because
i feel like more people would struggle
with that one than a lower skilled barrier
to entry workout like
The deadlift or the double under one.
As soon as there's a higher skill,
if that's your weakness,
it normally doesn't crush you as much as
you think it could if it was another
one.
That's just my observation.
We'll see.
I feel like I'm great at rope climbs.
I just can't squat snatch right now.
How did I find...
I got in the car to drive home
and I was like,
just that felt too easy.
Like I was, I mean,
I wasn't really unsure that I can even
pull three, fifteen.
I've only ever done it once in my
life.
And then,
and Jim was in the car and he's
like, well, and like,
so Jim like kind of knew the whole
time,
but never spoke up while he's judging.
So he's like, well, was it?
And then I'm like,
I'm doing the plate math and I'm like,
damn it.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah,
it was like the whole time.
That must be so frustrating,
especially cause it's not your gym.
You can't just go back quickly another
day.
Like you have to go and schedule another
time to do it.
Are you redoing any?
No, I, so I did the,
I did three yesterday and two today.
I'm that's it.
I'm done.
What was, what order did you go?
So if you just take what I did,
the three yesterday, I went shuttle,
deadlift, handstand, push-up one.
Which I feel like those were totally
doable in one day.
I feel like that could have been a
comp day easy.
It was fine.
And then I did Jackie when I got
to the gym today.
And then like an hour and a half
later, I did the rope climb to finish.
So you did your worst one last?
Yes.
And you went with your strongest workout
first to try to get as high as
possible?
I'm trying to understand your order of
events because if your worst one that you
knew was number one,
which is the rope climb one,
I personally would do that first.
Well, I did it second, technically.
The snatch one?
Yeah, I had done it on Friday.
Oh, okay.
And the redo was today.
Correct.
Okay.
Sherry asked, Jamie,
did you do better or worse redoing with
the ten plus pounds?
On the cleans, I think, maybe.
On the deadlift clean?
Or do you not want to say?
Did you get more cleans or less cleans?
I got more cleans.
There you go.
That's good.
Good.
Uh, two pulling back to back.
Ouch.
So I do, I will say,
I think I could have done better at
the rope climb one.
I'll maybe I'll kick myself for that,
but I'm not going back tomorrow.
I'm not.
I'm not going, you know,
inconveniencing the gym,
and I need to get Ronica in gym
for judges.
Like, I'm not doing that.
It is what it is.
If I miss again,
it's just not meant to be.
Like, I didn't outlunge Carly,
and if this wasn't enough,
it is what it is.
Lots of come on gyms and oof gyms.
Gotta speak up, dude.
Come on.
Like, just...
He did really good judging to, uh,
yesterday though.
Like he's like yelling each way.
He's like two seventy-five, you know,
to the camera.
He's yelling.
We got it now.
He was not going to make the mistake.
Got it.
Um, where do you feel like your,
do you feel like your goals have changed?
Like a few months ago,
you weren't even thinking that you were
going to do the semifinals.
And here you are, you know,
analyzing and fighting to try to get in
that top fifteen, like because, you know,
you have a legit shot.
Like as the workouts came out,
as you're as you're doing them this
weekend,
like how was your mentality in terms of.
So I will say,
I told Scott this because he kept saying
that too.
I personally don't think I ever thought I
wasn't going to be able to do them.
Programming depends.
Like, I mean,
I suppose if there would have been a
hundred and twenty-five pound overhead
squat or hundred and fifty-five pound
snatches, I would have been like,
this isn't worth signing up.
Like,
if it would have been like a couple
years ago with the row.
Shuttles and the snatch.
Yeah, I think it was just row snatch.
I think they were shuttles, I thought.
I don't know.
Um,
if there would have been another workout
like that, I would have been like,
I don't think this is worth it.
Like, I, I just, I can't snatch that.
Um, and, and like,
unless there was four absolute wheelhouse
workouts with me for the other four and
like, you know, I don't know, maybe,
maybe I would have had to look at
him and like, Oh,
I can try and see if that one
knocks me out.
I don't,
I always knew I would be able to
do the Open regardless and figured I'd get
through the quarterfinals.
And then it was always going to be,
let's see what the workouts are for semis
and see if I can do them.
To be fair,
I don't think these are great workouts for
me.
Every single workout,
everything that I am good at is paired
with something I'm terrible at.
Okay,
what were you bad at in number two
with the burpee, box jump over,
shuttle runs, double unders,
and handstand walk?
So shuttling has not been good for me.
I haven't really been able to do a
lot of it.
Pivoting.
And then even box jump overs has been
really rough on my knee.
And I'm not fast on my hands at
all.
I...
Like I will get beat there.
If it's like truly a handstand walk speed
test, I will get beat.
I'm not fast on my hands,
but I can walk pretty long distances.
And if there's enough stuff,
I can hang in there.
Cause I feel like that one on paper,
I would think that you're good at the
double Jackie.
Like you're strong on the row.
You have great like chest of bars.
I know that you can thruster that way.
It's not that heavy and you have good
like capacity there.
So like to me,
those two workouts out of the five,
I already know you should get very high
scores there,
regardless of what your snatch is.
Like I know that those would be good.
the deadlift is probably a best case
scenario for you in terms of like,
it could have been a heavy snatch.
It could have been, you know,
like scenario almost.
It was,
if there's going to be a strength test,
that was probably the best thing that
could have come up.
And they didn't go as heavy as they
could have, which also saves you.
Yeah, for sure.
And you know,
you can power clean better than, you know,
I mean,
you probably are going to go with good
technique and honest reps,
which might be at the detriment of your
score sometimes.
Yep.
Um,
Can we get real real here though for
a second?
Sure.
Cause, uh,
Jamie and I had a text conversation this
weekend and I asked her like, why?
Cause after the,
like we were talking and she was not
in a good headspace.
And I'm like,
I thought this was like a bonus year.
You had the hip surgery.
This was just about like getting back and
just seeing how it went.
And she basically said that she lied to
us, Carolyn.
All along,
she thought she would be able to do
all this stuff.
She was just telling us that.
I didn't want anyone to have expectations
of me.
It takes the pressure off of you.
I know, but we're past all that now.
And now you're actually competing.
Yeah,
I think it's partially because I told you
this.
When Dave was like, it's the twentieth.
If there's ever games you're going to be
at,
this is the games you want to be
at.
We're coming back together.
Although, the more I hear things about it,
I'm like, are we really?
Originally, that was the whole thing.
I was like, that's all I ever wanted.
I didn't make it in twenty-three to
Madison,
and I was pissed off because I went
to ten.
Every year, shit changes on me.
And I miss out on the good thing.
And
So I'm like,
I really want to make this one if
we're going to all be together back for
the twentieth anniversary.
So that's what I told my husband.
I was like,
I just want to make it.
Like,
I don't care if I get last at
the games.
Of course,
that'll change if I freaking make it.
But I was like,
I just want to make it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I should have known when she said it
because I've been around her long enough
in the last few years.
Whenever she laces up the nanos,
it's all in.
There's never a half-assed approach to
anything Jamie does.
And so when she came to me with
the bad headspace the other night and I
was trying to find ways to get her
perspective just to pivot,
I realized that she was full on in
to try to make this games.
And it really,
she's saying if there was a heavy snatch,
she still would have tried to kill the
other events to outdo the snatch.
I probably would have.
I mean,
if there was like three bad workouts,
I would have been like,
I'm not signing up.
I'm just going to hurt myself or be
really frustrated with the results.
But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
So we'll see where these should go.
I don't know.
I literally have no clue.
I could be, like I said,
it could be thirtieth or first.
That's not true.
No, I will not be first.
I can tell you that.
I didn't say first.
I said that you are not going to
settle for thirtieth.
So what I want to go to now
is public votes on the videos are during
this part of the season.
Are you happy about that or worried about
that?
I mean, I, I mean,
I feel like I move well.
So like, I'm not super worried about mine.
I do feel like people just click review
regardless.
I like, I hope,
I hope they've changed the format of
reviewing that.
There's like a,
you either put in a timestamp or what,
like,
know at minute three didn't lock out their
knees with the elbows through um or
whatever it is like i hope there's a
little more to it rather than just
clicking needs review i think you actually
have to leave comments that do you think
your name should be attached to your vote
yeah i don't think that's a bad idea
at all i agree
Because a lot of times, like last year,
people just liked every top person,
almost in every division.
And a lot of times,
it's like your competitors that just want
your videos reviewed and whatnot.
But I'd like to see the name sometimes
attached to it.
Do these people know that's what's
happening?
It's review and why?
I believe I was told that by Andrew
Sten.
Okay.
I'm going off my memory,
which I've had a lot going on this
week, so...
I think,
I believe that is what I was told.
And he's review with reason.
I think that's a good change.
Like that's a step in the right direction.
Yeah,
I think if you have to give a
reason, then...
Well,
it also helps them on the other side
to flag whatever they're looking for to
make the process faster.
Because just being flagged,
that doesn't help them.
They have to watch the whole video.
But it can be something very quick,
like equipment off.
It was also discovered this week.
I think I found out from Dave Hardy.
earlier in the week that magic city did
not test just like legends.
And there will be no testing for age
group athletes before the games.
Frustrating for sure.
Not surprised.
I was at Legends before the last event
and then I'm going towards the crowd and
I go,
do we have to bring our IDs?
Because normally before the last event,
especially the final heat,
you have to bring your IDs.
And they're like, no,
we're not testing the masters.
I'm like, you want my ID?
You want my ID?
You want...
Come on, test us.
And they're like, no, we're not testing.
Only the top or only four individuals on
each, like four men, four women, I think.
And I was like, come on.
It's like, really?
Test, test, test.
What makes me nervous is those at French
and those at LATAM,
and Torian are like, hey,
I get an extra four weeks on my
cycle.
So it's, gosh, it just sucks.
It sucks that I just don't,
I don't even know if there's a solution.
Well,
the solution is definitely not in-person
semis, this many spots.
set up this way this is this is
not the solution for masters you don't
like um having online or in-person semis
no this is very poorly set up like
at all you don't want any especially for
three especially for three spots in like
latam and torian like who the there that's
too many
I think it was poorly executed.
I think it's a great concept and a
great idea,
but I think they just threw it all
at the wall and said,
you guys wanted this,
here is all of it, instead of saying,
let's be strategic about this and come up
with a plan.
i love the idea i want masters to
be in person but i've said it a
million times i think it should just be
to until they figure it out and then
when they can figure something out then
expand it maybe a little bit i like
that idea i think that's yeah great great
and like two heats
Yeah, way too many people.
That's my other big, like,
you're just supporting these comps off the
backs of masters at this point to the
point where, like,
it's not beneficial for viewers to watch.
You're saturating the leaderboard with
people who, like, aren't.
Like, you don't – I mean,
I think even, like,
on – was it on the girls on
Filter?
They were talking about that.
Like,
you want to make sure the right people
are signing up and are there so that
there's people to middle the leaderboard.
And when you start inviting,
like – and no offense to any of
my competitors who got the chance to go
and were in, like,
the three hundreds and got an invite.
Like, I'm sure it was a great experience,
but it does,
like –
There's like,
they just need to only have people there
and they use the final result.
And I think the other thing is if
you're going to do in person,
then you have to minimize the,
the in affiliate number,
or you might as well not do in
person because so many people took the
option of an affiliate.
Right.
And it left us with a weak field
in all of the other in-person.
Like I could have easily just done the
in-affiliate.
I just wanted to do a competition.
Like my goal is to do a competition
before NorCal about a month away from each
other and just get a competition in.
And then I decided to do WFP and
I had already registered.
And I was like, okay,
I guess I'm doing a bunch of comps
right now.
But like...
I don't know if I do the,
I mean, I don't know.
I'll probably do an in-person semi next
year if it's available.
I mean,
I think the top people in the leaderboard
need to do the in-person semis.
I think, like, I don't, as it stands,
I don't think we will have the top
thirty fittest masters.
We don't have the top thirty athletes in
the individual.
Yeah, I agree.
But I think it'll be even more blatant.
We have never gotten the top thirty.
Ever.
It'll be better with opening up.
I mean,
you got the girls out of Copa Sur.
It's going to be better than it's been
in the past, but yes.
I mean, it's still an issue,
and it's going to be even more...
There's going to be some very good
individuals left off this year that had
one semifinal,
then they were looking to do the online,
and then there's a bunch of people looking
to do the online,
and there's only seven spots.
Right?
Yeah.
The thing is, like,
we didn't have the option.
So, okay, again, it's a problem because,
like,
Jason's able to call French Throwdown and
be like, hey,
can I come to French Throwdown?
And, of course, they're going to let him.
I didn't get the option to call Magic
City and be like, hey,
I just missed out by one spot.
Can I come there and get in?
Which I feel like that's what needed to
happen.
That's how you get the best people to
the games.
That Hopper thing is...
I'm sure the people there are pissed
because you're expecting...
There was not supposed to be any invites.
Then they invited Roman,
but then they replaced that with, I guess,
technically Hopper.
They had told all these Europeans, no,
you have to do the online qualifier or...
you do like from the quarterfinals,
the top Europeans only get invited and
that's based off of their quarterfinals.
So then just getting a special invite is,
yeah, I don't know.
I don't like that.
I would hate that.
Being strategic about my season.
And I said, okay,
my best shot is French.
And then all of a sudden, last minute,
you let the fittest man on earth in.
You just took away one of the spots.
Hypothetically.
I mean, anything can happen in sports,
but.
I know.
And people will be like, oh,
we'll get fitter to beat him.
But it just is.
You have these rules and these people plan
their seasons off of that qualifier and
that rule.
And then it got changed.
Yep.
Yep.
yep um like it's not it's not their
fault that he didn't plan for that uh
last year france got hosed by big name
wfp pullouts though so they're gonna take
any big name they can get us of
course i mean like it's hard to say
no to the champ and then the thing
that helped him was that roman was their
invite and then roman qualified
So if they had already pissed off people,
replace it with another one that's going
to piss off people anyways.
So, I mean, it's the same thing.
Whether it's Jason or Roman,
they both didn't do the online qualifier.
There you are.
There you are.
French is on our list,
but before we jump to... Zach,
MP Fit Co.
Zach Gibbon.
I did see that you also got fourth,
Zach.
I...
I felt your pain.
Missed you.
I would have liked to have been there.
I probably would have scheduled you to go
to that one.
I didn't.
I did.
I did.
I'll have to read out to you, Zach,
and see how an affiliate is going for
you.
So what I wanted to do is ask
Carolyn,
because she hasn't been here in two weeks,
is what your experience was like at WFP.
And your experience at legends,
you've had a big two weeks.
And then I've got some follow-up
questions.
Experience at legends.
Um, it was fun.
Yeah.
I mean, short five workouts,
body felt fine.
Didn't feel too beat up from it.
Um,
I felt like the volume wasn't super high
on the weekend.
Those stepper machines are horrible,
especially the ski.
That was like a damper.
Yeah.
Um, I couldn't get that thing going.
But really that workout I felt played on
the double-enders.
A hundred percent.
Like much more than the machines.
To me, it was a double-ender workout.
I mean,
it's always going to be a double-ender
workout for me, but yeah, that was fine.
It was like,
it was weird for me to do the
master's division and then be able to talk
to some of my competitors that are
normally in the elite division and tell
them how the workout was.
Yeah.
Um,
because I had a lot of like conversations
with a couple of the athletes that were
doing the workouts after me.
So it was just like a new position
that I could be in because they were
asking me how it was.
And I could literally tell them every
strategy or pace or whatever,
because they're not competing against me
that weekend.
So that was like an interesting, um,
twist to it.
And yeah,
I was just happy to punch my ticket.
Denise wants to know how you felt about
Lex beating you on the workout one.
Her big goal of the weekend was to
beat me in one workout.
And she knew that that was the one
that she could beat me on.
And then she beat me by a second.
She walked so fast over to my side
to see that sheet and to look at
my score and notice that she was one
second faster.
And like literally within like two seconds
of finishing the workout, she's like,
I got faster than you by a second.
I can't believe it was that close.
One second.
So it was funny.
So she had a big crew that were
like supporting her.
So yeah, it was fun.
Yeah.
But like,
I knew that I could lose to her
on that one.
Actually,
we were the first two to the skipping
rope of that workout.
So I looked over and I was like,
damn, it's me versus you right now.
So you punch your ticket for the age
group at Legends.
Then a week later,
you fly halfway around the world.
I go back to work.
I went to work and worked for a
few days.
And then Wednesday, I left.
Like most people,
some people left from like San Diego to
London.
Yeah.
I didn't get there until Thursday,
like the day before competition,
because I'm working the Wednesday because
I could not miss all those days back
to back.
So I got in Thursday,
registered and then competed the following
day.
I didn't feel like jet lag.
I felt like I stayed up well on
the Thursday to try to sleep well.
at a somewhat decent time.
Um, the, I like the WFP a lot.
I thought that they treated the athletes
very, very well.
I love the production.
Um, the broadcast was great.
Uh, the events were good events.
Um,
there was like a lot of time between
the events to recover, um,
They had an athlete area.
They had food for us.
They had free massage.
A lot of people in the background doing
massage therapy, physio,
all that for free.
At Legends,
it was really expensive to just get taped
and just anything.
And here, you were just taken care of.
That's awesome.
yeah, the workouts are great.
People, the athletes are awesome.
Um,
it was nice to compete with the
individuals and just see where I'm at
because I had just competed with the
masters.
And then, so sometimes it was like, okay,
you need to step it up because this
isn't no offense, but like,
this isn't the masters you need.
Like these girls are good.
Like these, these girls are faster.
These girls are stronger,
like in every way.
And a lot of times like,
like just fitter.
Um,
Did you adjust your pace?
Did you adjust your pace after doing an
event or two when you realized they were
faster?
Like the first round of the first workout,
I was the slowest on the field.
And I was like, Oh crap, you're not,
you're not going at a good pace right
now.
Like you need to,
you need to step it up.
Um,
and then I slowly was tripping away at
that work.
It was like the Ryan overhead squat toast
bar,
but I was the last one of the
first heat that like I was the first
heat that went.
Yep.
Yep.
So like I was probably the slowest and
I had no business being the slowest and
I
Right away after the first round,
I was like, okay,
you can't be doing this.
You did gain a lot.
You need to step up your game a
little bit.
Overall, I was happy.
There wasn't as many people as I expected.
I know that it was a holiday weekend
there.
Um, so that doesn't help them.
It was in an area that's really hard
to get to.
Like it was really annoying how far away
from the airport it was.
It was like almost an hour and a
bit from the airport.
So it's just not easy for people to
get there.
Um,
then it was changed locations in the last
couple months i don't know how much they
could have done because i expected more
from like the european crowd i guess um
but yeah no overall great experience
looking forward to trying to qualify again
for the second tour which is in indiana
so i've already signed up for that um
But yeah, no, over the weekend,
I was pretty happy with most of the
workouts.
I felt like I should have done much,
much.
I was really disappointed with the
dumbbell thruster workout.
On paper,
I thought that should have been an easy
top twenty for me.
And I just didn't have any legs under
me.
I don't know.
I had no second gear.
I was hunched over.
Um,
I don't feel like I was jet lagged
like at all.
Like,
I just don't know why I felt just,
just blah and that workout.
Cause I'm like, okay,
I'm great at burpee box jump overs row.
I'm fine.
I'm bad at skiing,
but everything else was good for me.
And I was like a thirty six place
and I was like, oh, this sucks.
But also the field is very good.
Um,
that one i wasn't as happy with my
performance with and probably this ring
muscle up one i went on broken on
the whole thing uh which not a lot
of people did i just think i walked
too slow with the sandbag i jogged too
slow to the sandbag so those transitions
just added up because i felt like that
could have been a higher finish for me
but i ended on a high note with
the you did right
So I have to ask you about that.
So the highlight of the weekend for me
is you hit yourself in the nose with
your barbell.
There is blood coming down apparently.
And you finish the workout unbroken
regardless.
I think you said in your post-event
interview that that happened on the second
round of
So you had another full round to complete.
It happened on the very first rep of
the second round.
So I went from my power,
my muscle snatches.
And I think that's what cost me a
few seconds.
As I was going to do muscle snatches.
And then I,
as soon as I finished my overhead lunge
on the way down,
I like nailed my nose.
And then I'm just kind of like recovering
and just trying to open my eyes and
just because you kind of get a little
bit teary eyes a little bit.
And I went to like a power snatch
too early in the workout and then
continued power snatching the whole way
from there.
But I think if I continued muscle snatches
a little bit longer,
like we were separated by like five
seconds,
I think from like where I finished in
like the first place.
I like Randy, like before the workout,
we did Randy with the online service games
two years ago and I went unbroken there.
And I rewatched my video of that workout,
maybe half hour before I went,
just to remind myself that I can go
unbroken and that yes,
it's short bars and it feels heavier,
but I was like,
but you can do it unbroken.
And you can still do it on broken.
So I just kept telling myself that I'm
like, you can do it on broken.
It's going to be hard going broken.
So like just having done that workout for
the service cup helped me beforehand to
know that I could do it on broken
versus I think a lot of people maybe
haven't done that workout in years and
then just kind of broke and then went
back to it.
Like I knew I wasn't going to break.
And I also,
and I also went and watched my twenty
fifteen, Randy.
So when you.
Did you watch back the WFP broadcast?
Because the announcers...
My sister filmed a lot of it,
so I saw it just from my story.
Yeah,
but the announcers talked about your nose
bleeding, and they were like,
she's a hockey player.
This is nothing for her.
And so it was a really cool highlight
for you in that moment on the broadcast.
If you haven't watched it,
it really came across cool.
There's a lot of talk about the deadlift.
So many people PR there.
Do you have an explanation for the PRs?
No,
I think that's a tie for my PR.
I'm pretty sure.
No,
I know I've pulled up four or five,
maybe like ten years ago.
I literally never I barely even go over
eighty five percent in training.
on any lifts at all times in the
year.
So like I don't,
and I certainly don't deadlift very often
just because I don't need to.
but i don't know but it was crazy
like i was in the stands because i'm
in one of the first heats and i'm
watching all of the deadlifts go and i'm
thinking i crushed the workout i'm like
okay i hit four or five i still
got it i still got my strength and
then i'm like starting to look and i'm
like oh my gosh like you got one
one girl that's got four fifty one girl
at four forty five two at four thirty
five one at four twenty and i'm like
oh my gosh i don't even have a
top ten i don't think
And I'm like, in the past, like,
that would have been an easy top five,
top six.
I think I finished, like, eleventh, and,
like,
a few of us tied at four or
five.
And the tiebreaker was,
what was your previous lift?
So I think, like,
I don't know how many, but, like,
at least a dozen hit over four hundred.
which was just crazy and just a lot
of them hitch their deadlifts i don't know
how to do that technique but it was
nuts to see the the lifts um the
krieger girls were awesome at deadlifting
like their their whole camp their whole
group of athlete was are so good they're
coming
Sherry wants to know, the Krieger girls,
are they just one and the same in
the back?
They just rotate outfits and go out and...
I like them.
They're super nice.
They have a really good group of girls.
They seem to be very close and a
lot of them have different strengths and
weaknesses.
And I always thought about them as engine
and gymnastics.
So when I saw them pull those deadlifts
and like almost every one of them was
incredible on the deadlift, I was like,
They're doing good work over there.
They're crushing it.
Dana, who's a Krieger athlete,
also won the deadlift.
I was staying with her all weekend.
Not a shock.
I knew she was going to win the
deadlift.
We had talked about numbers and stuff
prior.
I didn't think anyone could touch her on
the deadlift.
Yeah.
um amy kringle i did not expect that
from amy kringle at all i did not
know she had that and it looked easy
she was great all weekend dominant
toe-to-toe with laura that was like no
holes no holes all weekend that was a
phenomenal watch
I don't know,
but I think it looked like Laura kind
of tweaked her back on the deadlift.
I saw her look at her back and
then look at someone.
And I think she pulled back on the
Randy workout.
She was making double contact on the way
up and on the way down of the
very first rep.
And you can't do that on the Randy
workout.
And she's so much stronger that she
wouldn't need to do that.
I think she was...
um conserving her back for the rest of
the season i that's just my observation
and i think that she pulled back because
i think she would have been much closer
on that last one um so i think
something happened in the deadlift that
was the first time the norwegians got to
meet dana she's a legend to them that's
cool
Well, they have like she is so strong.
So I'm sure like when they see when
they share scores and they see her
numbers,
it's probably like crazy because Dana is
an Olympic lifter and a power lifter.
So you give her any lift and she's
winning.
Yeah.
And I have a feeling that we're going
to be seeing bench press and back squats
this year with the power lift.
So I'm assuming she'll just clean house.
Good for her.
Unpopular opinion,
but I think Amy is a better champ
than Laura.
Well, one, it's not champ.
And you have to remember that watching the
WFP.
This is a season-long tour.
This is only the first third of the
season.
Have you seen the documentary of Laura
done by,
I think it was done by Red Bull
or Rogue?
Very, very good.
I've heard it.
I've heard it's great.
Mm-hmm.
um so anyway there's there was some there
was some questions in there scott about
whether you and i would be going to
tour stop too because it's near us it's
not in michigan i saw dave's post that
is not in michigan it's at indiana
basically can i pull this comment on my
plan is to go to tour stop too
yeah i would like to as well pc
says you're going to love the tour stop
tour events and i know there's a field
last year that they ran outside on it
was turf i had a request to do
a four-year dash please thank you and that
is my request maybe they've been listening
yeah let's so i put in for media
credentials for tour stop two sweet i've
not heard back okay
Whoops, sorry.
No, I was going to pull up.
Does that mean no jump ropes?
Also could be a reason why the second
one could be good for me.
They got their jump rope in.
Apparently,
PC just approved my credentials.
Okay.
Amazing.
I'm going to be there cheering on.
How far is that from you, Jamie?
I don't.
How far is Indianapolis from us?
Can't be far.
Yeah.
Three hours is my guess.
Two and a half or three.
Jamie, apply.
Oh, I need to apply separate?
Yeah.
I have the link somewhere.
I'll send it to you.
Oh, Nicole says it's four showers.
I don't know that it's that far.
It's two and a half for me.
I think it's on the other side of
Indianapolis.
So maybe two, three.
Yeah, it's like what?
What?
Grand Park or winter?
I don't even know some.
Would you try to do the workouts qualify?
No, they're early July.
Oh, God.
I want some new people in the field.
It helps for the points.
CrossFat wants you to not trust Jim with
the mileage.
Okay.
We ain't trusting Jim with any more
numbers after this weekend.
Just so you know, CrossFat,
Jamie's husband is not Jim.
No.
Jamie's husband is Aaron.
We're good with Aaron on the numbers,
not Jim.
My dad is Jim, but not that Jim.
Right.
I mean, hey,
if they're like last year's Indiana
qualifier workouts, maybe,
because those were good for me.
I would have made it if I would
have weighed the weights.
Get her going, Carolyn.
Come on, Jamie.
Do it, Jamie.
I need to qualify first.
So it's what, thirty...
She says no,
but we know that means yes.
We'll see what the workouts are.
I didn't like the workouts for this first
stop.
Well, look at the bright side.
You're going to qualify for the games this
weekend.
Then you have nothing to do until the
games.
And then WFP two isn't until after the
games.
That's true.
And I like that I don't have school
yet.
I'm actually off at that point in August
because normally I'm back end of August,
but we're starting school late this year,
like September eighth.
So it's perfect time of the year for
me.
This is the first time you've been back
since there's a new CEO at CrossFit.
Any thoughts you want to share?
Well, I don't really know him very well.
I know that he has history with CrossFit.
I don't know how much he's able to
do even as CO as you've talked about
before with private equity stuff.
I don't really know how much that works.
But just to have someone there just seems
like better than nothing.
Yeah.
It doesn't look like we don't have anyone
at the top, right?
So I don't know.
I guess we'll see to be determined.
Like I said,
I don't know how much he can do,
what he's looking to do in terms of
his goals.
I'm open and ready to see the action.
Yeah,
I think I want to see the action,
not the words.
Same.
Yeah.
I also want to see how Brookshire plays
this out.
But it's a good sign to me that
they went with someone not from
necessarily the big corporate CEO world.
And maybe that's a good sign.
Yeah, we need less...
I think we need less C-suite people
in-house taking big paychecks.
I think they need to get rid of
some of that middle management here.
We'll see if he actually lives up to
what Savannah was saying and fires some
people.
I think that's what they need to do.
Yes, plan to get old affiliates back.
I agree.
so my thing is i could say this
is what i wanted i don't know enough
about crossfit hq to make any educated
remark i'd only be echoing somebody else's
opinion because i haven't seen it with my
own eyes so i just have to trust
that he's going to do something great um
hopefully lower the fees from forty five
hundred i would love to affiliate and
that's just
Wait, PC says,
I blame Bruce for getting rid of the
game's elevated media access.
I'm okay with it.
I think there were way too many people
that had backstage access last year,
and it was, in my opinion,
a shit show.
I think that the athletes had too many
people in their faces all the time.
I would forego my enhanced access.
Because it was really hard to get anything
accomplished and be courteous with the
athletes.
The only person that I had an agreement
with prior to the games was Hattie.
It was cool to be able to be
with her during all that stuff.
She knew I was going to be there.
She knew I was going to document all
that stuff.
But it was way,
way too hard to approach athletes.
I tried to catch them in cool down
instead of warm up.
But it just was hard.
And so I'm okay with cutting it.
It should be limited.
These athletes shouldn't have six hundred
cameras in their face.
My opinion.
Because that warm up area last year was
not big.
Just my two cents.
So what's going on French Throwdown this
weekend?
Right?
This weekend?
Can I just address this question?
Yeah.
I feel like there should be just like
a tier of like,
whether it's garage gyms or whatnot in
terms of affiliation.
Like if you just want to fly the
flag, no matter,
even like for your affiliate and you don't
want to use any of the cap programming,
the toolkit, whatever,
you just want to have the CrossFit name.
It's a certain fee.
You want to have these features a little
bit more expensive.
You want to have the whole, whole thing.
It's like,
Yeah,
like could they not do something like
that?
Like a tiered system?
If they did a garage affiliation,
I would affiliate my garage with
Clydesdale.
I'd affiliate my living room.
I would probably affiliate my garage as
well.
But it's been the topic of discussion in
Dave's Week in Review.
I think every week for about six months.
I think they're working out details of
something.
And hopefully it has more forethought than
other things that have been launched.
How much would you pay for a garage
gym?
Well,
I technically have my school affiliate.
Okay.
So I don't know that I would,
I don't even work out in my living
room, but I have my equipment here.
And I think it's a tiered thing.
Like if I do it,
I'm not training anybody out of my gym.
Yeah.
So I just do it for the name
and the support of CrossFit HQ,
like five hundred seven fifty somewhere in
that range.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With that,
you just get to use the name CrossFit
for your affiliate.
You get to do the open there.
Then for a little bit more,
you get cat programming or whatever you
want that they offer.
But HQ ain't that common sense smart.
Seems to be the trend.
We have a new CEO.
You can't
You can't keep carrying over the past over
and over.
When new people come in,
we have to give them the opportunity to
change.
Kind of don't want my garage on an
internet map.
They would not put it.
Yeah,
I don't think that those would go on.
I don't know that my school is on
the affiliate map because you can't charge
people and I don't think that they can
drop in.
I think that there would be a way
that if it's just a garage gym that
it's not showing up as one that people
drop in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd affiliate but still pay for my
CrossFit linchpin program.
Yeah, I think that's fine.
What's the perk?
The perk for me is from just a
media and my business to be able to
have a garage gym called Clydesdale,
I think is cool.
And maybe it doesn't amount to anything
for me other than I feel cool.
That's amazing.
Okay, well,
my garage is twelve thousand square feet.
Flex industrial space.
My garage is three thousand square feet as
well.
Yes.
CrossFit's kind of right.
It's like tithing.
Like CrossFit saved my life.
I pay them back with a garage affiliate
fee.
All right.
So at French.
Pretty stacked women's field.
Kind of stacked men's field.
Any thoughts on...
Who's the top women there?
I'm pulling that up.
Okay.
Oh, Amy's there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Claudia Gluck.
Almost qualified out of Mayhem.
Yeah.
Fuliano.
Jennifer Muir.
Now, Moistness was pulled out of WFP,
so I don't know if she's dealing with
an injury.
Eileen Wurtz or whatever that is,
she also has an injury, so she's out.
But you still have McGonigal.
Yeah, Caratalla.
Garness, Miravon Roar.
That's a strong field.
Rebecca Vitteson.
Reese Littlewood.
Geez.
So Sierra.
Van Thurman-Mo is good too.
Yep.
You have Var Thurman-Mo.
It's really, really stacked.
Yeah, that's a good field.
Yes, Mayha already qualified for that.
Yes, Mayha.
Leah Storen.
Yeah, that's a good field.
So where is this being broadcast?
Please tell me.
YouTube, I believe.
Okay, thank goodness.
French normally puts it on YouTube.
Okay.
This one's going to be exciting to watch.
Very.
That's a very good field.
Yeah.
And they get three spots, right?
Three?
Yep.
So just off the cuff,
my picks for this week in the women,
three spots, right?
Yep.
Amy Kringle.
Yep.
Elisa Fuliano.
And Reese Littlewood.
Garness.
Garness is in there for sure.
Is the programming all out for this,
isn't it?
We can look at that too.
Yeah, I would need to know.
Miriam.
Miriam.
Yeah.
Are there ring muscle ups?
I'm going to go... I forgot about Miriam.
Holy cow.
No, they don't have them.
I'm going to go Amy Kringle,
Matilda Garnes, and Miriam.
I think there's going to... Yeah,
that's a tough...
I think Claudia could be close.
Actually, I want to change one of mine.
I think Miriam is going to make it.
If there's no ring muscle ups,
I think she's in.
There is no ring muscle ups.
There you go.
Insane.
Manon's not making it.
No.
Washed.
And then the men is Catullus,
Brian Guillaume, Callum Clemens,
Colin Bosshard, Enrico Zanoni,
Fabian Benito Celis,
George Scaravis, Harry Lightfoot,
Jason Hopper, Moritz Fiebig,
Toby Buckland.
Mika.
Victor Langdahl.
I think Harry, Jason, Moritz.
Unless there's injuries that I don't know
about.
What do you think?
Jason, Harry.
I don't know enough about Kalem Clements.
Yeah.
How's Helsinghoff been looking?
I don't know.
Oh, Sven Gienz.
This might be his shot, guys.
This might be his shot.
Toby Buckland.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's too bad that the semifinals,
like this weekend, that there was none.
Some of ours have three at the same
time.
It's just too bad that it doesn't line
up,
that some of these big ones get spread
out.
This one's only that one, right,
that weekend?
Mm-hmm.
There could have been one of the major
ones this weekend.
And then the following weekend,
there's what, Torian?
Yep.
Yep.
Does Jason get booed?
No, I don't think he does.
I don't think he does.
I actually think people will be excited.
That's tough to say.
I can see people's frustration,
but I also think fans will like to
see him there.
Yeah.
We were talking to Leto on the lunch
show.
She's so excited to get to watch Jason
live.
Because they don't get that opportunity
very often, right?
Is she competing Masters there?
She is.
Okay.
So if she gets her spot online,
she's competing.
It's the one that comes first, right?
So her online ticket would count,
and then she would be competing there but
not counting as a spot.
Correct.
You are correct.
But she won't know the result of the
online until after the French match.
Oh,
so that's interesting because maybe the
French one gets confirmed first and then
she becomes,
that one is her spot and then doesn't
count for the online.
It's what everyone gets confirmed first.
Yeah.
So because this week and then you is
next week,
she's going to know from French before she
knows from the online.
I feel like they'd have to take it
from French.
I think they'll take it from French.
Yeah.
I think that's fine.
Yeah, that's fine.
You can't get the top three people in
person.
That's fine.
And then she has the online as her
backup if needed.
That's dumb.
CrossFat,
what's dumb is putting the in-affiliate
semifinal in the middle of the season.
There's no need for it to be here.
put it at the end with the elites
agreed i on freaking mother's day weekend
yeah on mother's day weekend trying to get
people to show up for you on a
mother's day weekend two people and for
those of you dogging my toby buckland pick
he's a clydesdale i gotta go with the
clydesdale
I don't think he's making it, Scott.
But I do have to tell you,
Mathilde looked awesome at WFP.
She did.
She looked unreal.
Imagine having, like,
the SEC tournament in the middle of a
college basketball season.
Then the rest of the conference schedule.
That's pretty much it.
So CrossFit needs CrossFat to just put
analogies over the top of their thoughts
before they make them public.
The masters are going at French.
They are doing it a different way than
the US ones have done.
Only ten masters are getting in from each
age group.
and three go to the games on the
lower age groups.
Wow.
I think that should be two go.
I like the ten.
I think that's the smart way to do
it.
Ten.
Get your top ten in the area there,
but I think they should probably only get
two spots.
Yeah, I think for us,
wasn't there a rule there needs to be
at least three times the amount of spots?
Nine would have been the minimum,
which is crazy low for three spots.
If you guaranteed me
one through ten at the in-person semi take
the three spots i'm cool with it throw
down with the ten best i'm cool with
it yeah but you know that's not gonna
happen i know i'm just telling you for
future thoughts yeah fair um
So, thirty-five to forty-four, get three.
Forty-five to fifty-four, get two.
Fifty-five up, get one.
Do you know, do they all have ten?
Or do they drop ten?
I believe so.
Okay.
Are they doing the thirty-fives?
Are they doing the same workouts as the
individuals?
Or are they modified?
I haven't seen.
That's fine.
Good luck to the legal.
Yeah.
CrossFit loves Mother's Day, Memorial Day,
and Easter.
Sure do.
They really do.
You know why?
Because other entities don't schedule
venues on the holiday weekends,
so CrossFit gets them for cheap.
Now,
why they did an affiliate on a holiday,
there's no venue associated with that,
makes no sense to me.
Looking forward to seeing if the crowd is
big there.
So far, Mayhem had a great turnout.
Legends was not a good turnout.
Magic City, meh.
And Culpasur had a pretty good turnout
from what I've seen.
WFP, no.
And then looking forward to seeing if the
French throwdown finally gets...
the regular crowd that we feel like
normally gets in Europe.
I know Torian's going to be like,
that's always packed.
I would bet French is packed.
The couple of times we have been in
at the French other than last year,
which was right after the twenty four
season.
It has been packed.
I would bet packed.
Yeah, I would do.
I hope so.
Yes, Denise,
I do know that if you don't have
three athletes in the older divisions,
they don't get a game spot.
Correct.
Factor of three per spot, yes.
Every age division.
Last thing for you tonight is a quick
news bit.
If you did not watch all of Dave
Castro's athlete interviews,
there is an interview with Lucy Campbell
where –
seems to basically confirm they are
starting Thursday in a location that the
public will not have access to.
Yeah.
So like when he was talking to Lucy,
she asked him the question about the,
what is it called?
The outdoor events that he had mentioned,
like the couple.
And then he said to expect to use
around the venue,
but that their stuff that the, the,
fans can see and then there's stuff that
the fans may not be able to see
and he goes we have publicly said that
you know the friday to the sunday would
be where the public could see so it
pretty much to me confirmed that they're
starting on thursday or wednesday who
knows maybe it's on thursday but that the
public probably won't be able to go
Is it the ranch or Moffett Field?
I feel like it's something with either a
military base or something that people
can't go and watch, or it's the ranch.
Are they bringing masters to the ranch,
too?
Hell no.
We can't even get into the SAP arena.
True.
We're a mile down the road.
The population of Masters athletes would
probably be bigger than what they are
zoned for at the ranch.
That has been a problem with using the
ranch for other events.
It is not zoned for a big event.
We get two t-shirts for three-day
competitions and...
One tight, one short.
One pair of shorts.
And you have to wear them the whole
weekend.
Get in the ice bath, deal with it.
Yeah,
until the lettering's falling off because
they've been washed so much.
That's what we get.
They're bringing the Masters to the
Western-themed steakhouse called The Ranch
for a blue plate special.
One sock.
Yeah, one sock.
Pretty much.
I'll have my car if anyone needs a
ride.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The one pair of shorts will either be
gigantic or offensively small.
Jamie will take the offensively small and
Carolyn will take the gigantic.
You won't be able to see much of
it because it'll be behind Paywall Flow
Elite.
Yeah.
Man, I hope they drop that.
I don't think so.
Why are you saying that?
Well,
I think it's good for the sport in
general.
I don't think we should be behind Paywall,
but I don't like what's going on with
that situation.
know that i cannot confirm any of that
stuff and it was pulled from the spin
just so you know just because someone
writes something doesn't mean it's true
true no but if you go on flowly
it it has the masters crossfit games there
no no there is a story out there
right now about something flow elite did
years ago
Oh, I haven't seen that.
And there are threats of cancellation and
all this stuff.
I cannot confirm that story.
Any way, anyhow,
I have been researching for three days
trying to find any validity to that story.
And it was posted by The Spin on
Friday morning.
And it was pulled Friday afternoon from
The Spin.
Interesting.
So don't always believe what you see just
because you see it.
So there it is.
If you can find it,
send it to me because I cannot find
it.
I don't really want to Google that on
my phone.
Well,
the article itself is just reporting the
news.
Yeah, I know.
The thing in question is that there was
a link.
Right.
I think that's doubt.
I would say that you're not going to
find that.
Plus, it happened fourteen years ago.
You shouldn't be able to find it.
I'm sure she...
I'm sure McKayla Maroney was able to get
some legal action and get it scrubbed from
the internet.
Savon found it on a show the other
night.
I'm not saying that someone didn't put
something out there, but it is removed.
Whatever is out there, I cannot find it.
Well, good.
It should be removed.
There should be no...
Ed wants to know,
you're telling me the internet lied to us.
I'm telling you I can't find it.
I tried using ChatGPT.
I tried using Google.
I tried everything I could to find it.
And I didn't want to talk about it
unless I could find it.
Yeah, fair.
I'm not searching it, so.
No, thanks.
I just wanted to see if I could
find the article and see if it had
a hyperlink.
And then what?
Click on the link?
No, thank you.
No,
I wasn't going to click on the link.
It's going to be gone.
That is not going to be findable.
I have no idea what any of you
guys are talking about,
but it sounds really serious.
It's really serious.
And I don't want to look it up
because it's telling me I shouldn't be
looking it up from my home address.
It's underage images.
So it's the gymnast Michaela Maroney.
Apparently Larry Nassar took pictures of
her when she was underage.
The convicted doctor took pictures of her
when she was underage.
Flow Gymnastics posted an article
allegedly telling that story.
It happened.
And allegedly there was a link in the
body of the article that went to the
pictures,
which I find highly hard to believe that
anybody would let that pass through any
kind of stuff.
i know but but everybody is reacting to
this story like it's true i just wanted
to see if the article even exists i
would guess it does not exist anymore well
spin posted a picture of the article but
again all of that has been pulled
And I don't know why he pulled it.
There was no retraction about it.
Yeah, I know.
Don't bring up Michigan State in relation,
please.
So I don't, again,
I don't know why it was pulled.
But that made me very suspect of its
validity if SPIN is pulling it down.
Cause spin doesn't usually pull down a
story because a couple of people complain.
Right.
So, well, either way,
not a fan of flow late.
So I don't think it's good for our
sport regardless of any.
And you and I are going to disagree
about that.
Cause I do think a paywall with other
sports on its app does make sense to
try to grow it.
And if we don't support the ecosystem some
way, it's going to go away.
They need to find a way to have
like a weekend price,
not a subscription price.
That's what I don't like about the Flow
Elite.
I just don't even think Flow Elite's a
good one.
It's not.
It needs to be a weekend price of,
you know, I don't know, five ninety nine,
nine ninety nine, something like that.
It needs to be like Rogues broadcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People want to be on YouTube.
They want to be able to chat.
And they can monetize on YouTube too.
There you go.
But just because people like it today
doesn't mean it's what's best for the
sport in the future.
You need revenue from other sources if you
want the sport to survive.
That's what it is.
If I want to watch any other sport,
I have to pay for an app.
Any other sport.
It's just a fact.
So.
I just feel like the masters,
like I think they would be more worth
it.
Not more worth it,
but like people would pay more for the
individuals to pay like.
Thirty dollars to watch the same heat for
the whole day is.
Not that fun.
So I believe that if you're going to
jump into Flow Elite,
the whole semifinal season should be on
Flow Elite,
and then it's worth the app price.
I agree with that.
And then it's all in the same place,
and you can charge a good chunk for
that.
And people would pay.
As event organizers or as CrossFitter or
whatever.
Yeah,
because then you're actually getting a
bunch of different things with it.
Will the sport ever get big enough to
need that?
Well,
the sport's just going to shrivel away if
there's no money to support it.
I've talked to event organizers in person.
They are struggling.
They're struggling to put these events on.
If we have nobody,
because CrossFit is gone completely
hands-off,
and if the event organizers back out,
then where are you?
I'm going to say it.
I think a lot of these events have
promised too much money to the athletes
and then have just needed to raise the
prices for everything.
And they just don't have the budget for
it.
We promise like,
because we're trying to make it
professional, a lot of comms are like,
well, I need to pay the athletes,
five thousand, ten thousand.
And then everything's just getting so
expensive.
And like, yeah,
I like it as an athlete to make
that money,
but I don't think that the organizer,
like the organizers just keep losing
money.
They don't have that much money coming in
to be giving the athletes all the money.
Everybody knows I talked to Wilson Pac.
He is about as frugal as it comes
when putting together events.
He tries to save money wherever he can.
It is a struggle.
It's a struggle.
And the last two seasons have not been
great.
If the prices were lower for people to
buy tickets,
if more people would be in there
supporting the athletes,
if the cost of registration for the
athletes was lower.
Yeah,
it brings the price purse a little bit,
but I think it would fill up more
and then you get more sponsorships and
then you get more people that buy into
it.
But right now,
everything is so expensive with an empty
stadium.
We've brought up the prices too much and
promised too much
to the athletes and like,
I'm not complaining because it's a way
that people can make money and,
and revenue.
But I just think like, I don't know.
Things have gone too expensive.
All right.
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